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Rhyming slang and Indian cookery

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On 03/04/2012 03:04pm, Phil wrote:

Interesting how Indian food has got to the heart of British life, and vereyday speech.

I heard about two new rhyming slang expressions on the Andrew Marr Show on Sunday:

chicken jalfrezi (cray)

Ruby Murray (curry)

as in 'If I don't get a Ruby Murray soon, I'll go completely chicken jalfrezi'

Not sure I spelled that surname right, since I have no idea who Ruby Murr(a)y might be.

Phil

On 03/04/2012 05:04pm, phil wrote:

I'm Scottish, so 'Murray' rhymes with 'curry'.

But 'Ruby' doesn't rhyme with 'curry' anywhere.

Beats me!

On 03/04/2012 05:04pm, phil wrote:

Just checked the Longman pronpuncing disctionary: 'Murray' does indeed rhyme with 'curry' in Received Pronunciation and General American

Phil

On 03/04/2012 08:04pm, Mamta wrote:

If Murray rhymes with curry, then it makes sense, doesn't it?

In one of my early jobs in UK, I worked in some maternity hospital in Hackney, I think it was called Mother's Hospital. Our digs cleaner was a cockney lady and whatever she said to us, was mostly lost on me, I had no idea what she was talking about most of the time!

On 03/04/2012 09:04pm, phil wrote:

My French friends don't understanf Eastenders. When my Francophone wife first came to stay in Northumberland, she had no idea what the Geordies were saying. I have difficulty with tradesmen here in the South of France because they speak Midi French.

The reason why a curry can be referred to as a a Ruby is that the rhyming part of a rhyming slang term can be lost.

For example: Barnet Fair was Cockney rhyming slang for 'hair'. It's now just 'Barnet', as in 'Get yer barnet cut!'

So: 'Let's have a Ruby' (Murray) = 'Let's have a curry'.

Phil

On 04/04/2012 06:04am, Mamta wrote:

"The reason why a curry can be referred to as a a Ruby is that the rhyming part of a rhyming slang term can be lost."

Now I understand! Thank you for explaining that :-).

On 04/04/2012 08:04pm, phil wrote:

You're welcome, Mamta!

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