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Phil
6/2/2010 11:43am
Nine Jewels Chicken Korma

Mamta, I'm about to have a go at this recipe (Navaratam Murg Korma). Two queries:

1. Your recipe clearly requires whole almonds, but I've got finely sliced almonds. Should they also soak?

2. I'm not clear about where the ionions come in: they're not part of the marinade. Should I fry these before putting the rest in the slow cooker?

Phil

Mamta
6/2/2010 12:39pm

Phil, I just saw this. I was busy cooking for daughter number 2's freezer this morning.

Sliced almonds are fine, soaking will make it easier to grind them and mix with other nuts.

I have added them raw, see picture, to the marinated chicken before putting them in a slow cooker. You can fry them, but they are fine as they are, because they cook slowly with chicken and mingle well.

I am sorry, the recipe does not mention it clearly and needs editing, thanks for pointing it out. It will have to wait for another 6 weeks or so before I can edit it. I have made a note.

Mamta

Phil
6/2/2010 03:34pm
Korma

Thanks, Mamta: I'm going to start the marinade now.

I've only just realised that you can click on the small photos on the left hand side of the recipe: what a technophobe!

I also didn't know what a slow cooker was, but I've checked it out on Google.

Looking forward to it! Phil

Mamta
6/2/2010 04:10pm

Slow cookers are mgreat, I have just finished cooking a lamb curry in it. It smells very nice and OH says it taste good too.

Phil
6/2/2010 06:21pm
Korma

They're electric, right? I'm going to get one. Could help a lot in the kitchen.

Phil

Mamta
6/2/2010 07:23pm

Hello Phil

If a friend has one, borrow and try it out first. They are good, I use them all the time, but you have to be sure. There are some now that are a combination of Slow Cooker, Steamer, Rice Cooker, Porridge Maker etc. This way, you save a lot of cupboard space; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tefal-RK701115-Steamer-Porridge-Brushed/dp/B000T76URQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1265483848&sr=1-1

This one is a bit expensive but it is worth looking around on the net. Amzon have a good selection too. Some are a combination of rice cooker and slow cooker. Argos do some inexpensive ones. If you cook only for two, there are mini ones too, I think!

Mamta

phil
7/2/2010 10:24am
Korma

Thanks, Mamta: I'll check it out.

phil
7/2/2010 04:53pm
Korma

Mamta, just one small point when you get the time to edit the recipe for this korma: if you've had the chicken marinading in the fridge overnight, people should make sure to take it out way ahead of the cooking time, so that the yoghurt comes to room temperature.

Otherwise, as you say elsewhere, the yoghurt might separate when cooking.

I took it out of the fridge 2 hours before cooking, but that wasn't enough. Also, I need to use full-fat yoghurt, as you suggest. Looks good, though, despite the separation.

Mamta
7/2/2010 08:25pm

Good point! I have noted it down for correction later on. Thanks Phil.

Mamta

Lapis
7/2/2010 10:59pm

I would have thought the splitting was due to the use of low fat yoghurt, rather than the low temperatures. I use yoghurt straight from the fridge every time, and don't have any problems with splitting, since I have been using a different yoghurt.

Askcy
7/2/2010 11:04pm

Oddly I use 0% fat Greek Style yoghurt straight from the fridge and don't have problems with that splitting either !

Steve

Mamta
8/2/2010 06:08am

It doesn't always split when cold, but is more likely to. As you said Lapis, skimmed milk yoghurt is also more likely to split.

If at room temperatur, it is less likely to split, for some reason. This can also be stopped by adding a little of the hot gravy and then adding it to the curry. Sometimes, adding a little cornflour/besan also stops this.

Phil
8/2/2010 09:28pm
Korma

Maybe it's the full-fat factor, or perhaps also the fridge factor, or both: it's an empirical question. I'll see.

It wasn't really a success: I overdid the cardamom, and although I cooked it in a heavy pot on the lowest setting on the electric ring, that was too hot.

I'll have to do it in a really low oven, or in a slow cooker, if I get one.

Phil

Mamta
9/2/2010 06:38am

Phil, what were the problesm with it, may be I can help.

Lapis
9/2/2010 11:05am

if you cook with a lid on, you will lose less of the aromatics than without a lid. It is tempting to add the same amount of spice, regardless of cooking process, but it really does make a difference. If the recipe is good enough (as it should be on this site) then I suggest following it to the letter. One reason why North Indian dishes use garam masala is so that the strongly aromatic spices are added in the correct proportions at the beginning of cooking, and not sprinkled at hoc at the end!

Phil
9/2/2010 02:54pm
Korma

On this one, I think Lapis is bang-on: follow the recipe to the letter (which is what I normally do when I first try a recipe, unless I see something in it that just doesn't feel right).

I've become rather slap-dash with spice amounts, which is partly where I went wrong here: the taste of cardamom was drwoing out the other tastes. I also should have used full-fat yoghurt. Until such time as I get a slow cooker, I think I'll try it in a very low oven.

I'm also going to try doing one of your tandoori chicken recipes, Mamta, but with quails, for which we currently use a Spanish recipe which contains grated red peppers, ground cumin, garlic, chilli powder and olive oil. I'm sure I had tandoori quail once in an Indian restaurant in Edinburgh.

Lapis
9/2/2010 04:04pm

these old type recipes relied on cooking with pots on top of the range, as western style ovens are a very recent introduction in Indian culinary terms.

[When I went to see aa friend in Bangalore, neither he, or his house maid had even lit the grill, let alone the oven! Lets say I didn't break the 'Primary Directive']

In the past, if heat was required all around, a compromise was found by sealing a pot with a ribbon of dough, then charcoal was placed on top of the pot. Very little aromatics were lost, but one couldn't have a peak to see if all was still fine!

Mamta
9/2/2010 04:42pm

Hello Phil

If you try the tandoori chicken with quails, please take postures. If the recipe works for them, we can add it either on the chicken recipe as a not or write it again for quails. I know, I am becoming a picture bore, keep asking everyone!

You are right lapis, very few people in India have Western style ovens. They either gave gas cooker top tandoor or oven as part of their new microwave ovens. Even the proper tandoor is not that common in domestic use. Dum was indeed availed by dough seal. My mum used it for some vegetarian dishes, specially her vegetable pulao (called pilaf in UK for some reason).

Mamta

Lapis
9/2/2010 06:55pm

Pilaf I think of as Middle Eastern, which came first I don't know, but rice is said to originate from east of India, so it might be that rice spread from India to Persia, for example. Paella comes from the same route, I think.

Of course, pilau rice in a so-called 'Indian restaurant' just means rice, the sort and combination being up to the cooks there.

Guest
9/2/2010 07:01pm

One thing I have noticed if you buy pilaf rice from a take away is that it's just plain boiled rice with a few dashes of food colouring, yet they seem to charge an extra 50p or more for the privilege.

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